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Friday, June 29, 2012

Friday and Michael's Mission Call is Not Here


Todd Trauntvein 2:46pm Jun 29
So, Friday and the call still isn't here. Perhaps tomorrow. We'll keep you posted since tomorrow is the day we have it all worked out to open it.


So, we had a small change in plans. His mission call isn't here yet, but we are sticking with the times as of today. We are going to open his call at 2pm ET, so noon MT. Amy is going to be in Lake Shore. We will have Facetime open on my iPad and my iPhone. The iPhone will be dedicated to Nephi and the iPad will be dedicated to Lake Shore. I will also have skype open on two laptops. That should make us able to open four video connections.

I will have a conference line open. The phone number will be:
Outside Toll-Free  888-337-1191
Participant PIN  88221082
You can use *6 to mute and unmute yourselves.

skype1: Todd.Trauntvein
skype2: Michael.Trauntvein

Michael will have a few friends at the home, about eight of them and that is it. If the call doesn't show up, we'll let you all know. But, it should be here today, or tomorrow. If not, then we'll do it next week sometime on a weeknight. We love you all.

Todd adds: The call is here. We are on for the opening. 

We have fall out ash from wildfires.


Myrna wrote: Now they are evacuating Mills. We have ash all over the yard and a yellow sky. In fact, some of the shrubs are looking decidedly sad. Their leaves are turning brown. Pray for rain.

From News Stories

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Firefighters worked feverishly Wednesday to gain control of the fires, with one blaze in the central part of the state burning with little containment after destroying at least 56 structures, authorities said. They expected the number to rise considerably as they continue their assessment of the fire-ravaged area between Fountain Green and Fairview and north across the Utah County line.

The Wood Hollow Fire in Sanpete County had grown to about 46,000 acres, or 72 square miles, by Wednesday evening. Three firefighters suffered minor injuries, authorities said. The blaze is the largest of several burning in Utah. Officials re-opened U.S. 89 Wednesday and an evacuation order for the roughly 1,200 residents of Fairview was lifted. However, authorities said they're still concerned about winds picking up and hampering the containment effort, which sat at about 15 percent Wednesday night.

Elsewhere in the state, the New Harmony Fire near St. George started Wednesday afternoon and had grown to 1,000 acres by nightfall. Fire officials said one structure has been destroyed and an undetermined number of residents near New Harmony and Bumblebee have evacuated their homes. The Red Cross set up an evacuation center at Delta High School in Delta.

The fire was burning about three miles north of Zion National Park, prompting park officials to close an area known as the Kolob section. Officials said Route 15 between the Kolob exit and Cedar City, and the Kolob Scenic Drive and Visitor Center have been closed.

Officials said there was no containment on the Seeley Fire, which has forced evacuations in Clear Creek, Hiawatha, Wattis and Scofield. That blaze has burned more than 10,000 acres, Manti-La Sal National Forest spokeswoman Rosann Fillmore said Wednesday. In addition to summer and year-round residents in those communities, about 100 girls at a camp and a group of Boy Scouts have been evacuated.

The Church Camp fire, burning about 20 miles south of Duchesne, has charred about 5,200 acres and was 5 percent contained as of late Wednesday night. Officials have evacuated about 30 people in nearby Argyle Canyon. The blaze has destroyed about 12 structures.

The 12,000-acre Clay Springs Fire near Nephi forced the evacuation of the small communities of Oak City and Fool Creek, fire officials said late Wednesday night. The number of evacuees wasn't immediately clear, but the officials said the blaze was threatening about 100 structures.

Fool Creek under mandatory evacuation (Oak City evacuation lifted today at 10 a.m.). An evacuation center has been set up at the LDS Stake Center, 126 White Sage Ave, Delta, UT. Road closures are in effect for Hwy 125 and Foot Hill Blvd. Red flag warnings in effect today, currently 15-20mph winds.

The Pole Creek Fire was reported about 3:30 p.m. It began near the mouth of Uintah Canyon on the Uintah-Ouray Indian Reservation. Federal, state and local fire crews fought the fire with two helicopters, a single-engine air tanker and numerous engines.

Thursday, June 28, 2012

The West On Fire

Myrna wrote: Wow! Julie should have taken some from her front porch. I guess I should go out on my porch but which direction would I choose--East, West or South? I'm further away than either of you. I read that you had lost about 350 homes in Colorado Springs.

Melanie wrote: I think Julie has some from her front porch. I will send them to you. 
Mel

Pics from Kirsten's subdivision




This is what the fire looked like from our subdivision on Tuesday:

Same area today:

COS Fire



This is the area on the west side of the springs (we are east and still safe). The fire broke two containment lines, came down the mount, and this is the result. As you know from national news, they're still not releasing numbers... Some of our friends just sold their house in this fire-stricken area last year and now it's gone. It's been a weird few days.

We are still in the safe zone an not even on pre-evacuation notice. We'll keep you posted if anything changes.

Kirsten

Mt. Shadows neighborhood (these "homes" are in our stake).

The west is being destroyed by fire and fires are near Kirsten and Julie


Our side of the freeway is fine so far.  They did just evacuate even the cadets at the academy--thus far it had only been the base housing by the academy.  For those not familiar with the academy, I'm due east about four miles from housing, across the freeway, and only less than mile to the freeway from my house.  We will plan on packing up some of our irreplaceable valuables (pics with no digital copies, old home movies, papers) and take them to a age location while we are in Utah for our family reunion tomorrow. Love, Kirsten 


Melanie wrote: I called Kirsten this afternoon. She called back later. The cell service in her area is spotty, due to the forest fire and usage by everyone who is trying to contact loved ones.Texting seems to work well.

Kirsten said that the residences near Garden of the Gods are in jeopardy. One of the businesses that has been in that area for the past hundred is years, is a complete loss.
Love you all. Mel


Myrna wrote: Thanks for letting us know about Kirsten. I am glad that you talked to her. I told you that you were a wonderful big sister.

The fire was just across the valley from Julie (from her house to Fairview). Then Colorado Springs became a news item. Now they have a fire by Cedar City that has closed the freeway both directions. Of course, the other fires are also still going nuts. There is a huge fire burning up Huntington Canyon and they have evacuated Scofield. I have been waiting for Dog Valley to go up in smoke. It is the time of year that it usually burns.



Are you OK, Kirsten? The west is being destroyed by fire.


Colorado wildfire: Too dangerous to assess damage
30,000 flee » Evacuees crowd shelters as huge flares signal yet another house is gone.
By P. SOLOMON BANDA
The Associated Press
First Published Jun 27 2012 12:38 pm


Melanie wrtoe: I called Kirsten this afternoon. She called back later. The cell service in her area is spotty, due to the forest and usage by everyone who is trying to contact loved ones.Texting seems to work well.

Kirsten said that the residences near Garden of the Gods are in jeopardy. One of the businesses that has been in that area for the past hundred is years, is a complete loss.
Love you all. Mel


Myrna wrote: Thanks for letting us know about Kirsten. I am glad that you talked to her. I told you that you were a wonderful big sister.

The fire was just across the valley from Julie (from her house to Fairview). Then Colorado Springs became a news item. Now they have a fire by Cedar City that has closed the freeway both directions. Of course, the other fires are also still going nuts. There is a huge fire burning up Huntington Canyon and they have evacuated Scofield. I have been waiting for Dog Valley to go up in smoke. It is the time of year that it usually burns.

Wednesday, June 27, 2012

I didn't realize that Sister Pinegar was the 9th General President of the Primary‏


Patricia Peterson Pinegar (born February 3, 1937) was the ninth general president of the Primary of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) from 1994 to 1999.

Patricia Peterson was born in Cedar City, Utah and grew up in Utah, California and Hawaii. Peterson attended Brigham Young University, where she met her future husband, Ed J. Pinegar. They were married in the Salt Lake Temple in 1956 and are the parents of eight children.

Pinegar and her husband lived in England while he was president of the England London South Mission of the church. Ed was later the director of the church's Missionary Training Center in Provo, Utah.

In 1992, Pinegar was appointed as second counselor to Janette C. Hales in the general presidency of the church's Young Women organization. She served in this capacity until 1994, when she became the ninth general president of the Primary, succeedingMichaelene P. Grassli. Pinegar served until 1999 and was succeeded by Coleen K. Menlove.

During Pinegar's tenure, the Primary developed the Achievement Days program for 8–11 year old girls to parallel the Cub Scoutingprogram utilized for Primary boys of the same age.

In November 2009, Pinegar began serving with her husband in the Manti Utah Temple, with her as matron and he as president of the temple.

EllaDean wrote: How interesting.  I didn't realize this either.  My cousin who works Tues and Wed at the temple, said President Pinegar had some baCK surgeries. It just doesn't seem that they hav been there 3 years though.

Ruth Ann wrote: I did know about the Primary Presidency,  but I did not know the rest of her  bio. Very interesting. Thanks.

Maxine Gordon wrote: Very interesting. Thanks.

Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Weekend Schedule Question


Kimberly wrote: What is the schedule for the weekend of the 4th?
You told me while we were at Mesa Verde together that the pool party was Saturday, but what time?
Are we staying through Wednesday?

Monday, June 25, 2012

Response by Gordon Smith to Fires and Guns


Shutting down recreational shooting because some shooters are stupid is like keeping the school class you are teaching, in the classroom during lunch time because one of the members of the class was shooting spit wads at a classmate.
 
Punish the offenders, not the entire class.
 
Government is becoming too big, too strong, too controlling, and they make way too many laws.  Enforce the laws which are already written.

Some of those shooters were shooting at targets designed to explode when shot.  How stupid is that?  Punish those who start the fires.
 
The government will soon be telling me I can no longer plant a home garden because it takes money away from the grocery store.

The government will soon be telling me I can no longer drive a car because some drivers text while driving, and cause accidents.
 
Love Ya, Gordon

Gordon wrote in response to an article by By Matt Pearce, June 24, 2012, 2:58 p.m. Just a paragraph or two of the article is quoted below.

Twenty.

That’s the number of wildfires officials believe recreational shooters have caused so far this summer in Utah. One of those wildfires — the Dump fire 40 miles south of Salt Lake City — prompted 2,300 evacuation notices and has led to a 6,023-acre blaze.

It has also led to something of a constitutional controversy in Utah, where state law prevents state agencies from enacting any rule to restrict recreational shooting without the Legislature’s permission — even in areas at high risk for fires, even during a drought.

Which might explain why the Utah governor is begging residents to be more careful.

“Now is not a good time to take your gun outside and start shooting in cheat grass that’s tinder dry,” Republican Gov.Gary Herbert said Friday,the Christian Science Monitor, reported


Sunday, June 24, 2012

Julie's Fire

Julie called to say that Fairview had been evacuated. The fire is close. Jim has been moving bees.‏

The Wood Hollow fire burned out of control near Fairview on Sunday, June 24, 2012. The fire, which started Saturday afternoon, had burned nearly 10,000 acres as of Sunday evening and forced the evacuation of several communities near Indianola and Fountain Green.



EllaDean Hunter wrote: You know this is getting scarey.  I wonder if they will close the temple. Although I'm sure it will reach Manti. the Lord will stop it before it goes that far.
Is the Pageant going to go on.  With highway 89 closed, it will make a difference.

Thursday, June 21, 2012

Sundance Tickets from Kirsten


Kirsten wrote: Mom and Dad, here are our tickets.  It's first come, with guaranteed bench seats.  Doors open at 7:00.  JULY 30.  Hope this is a fun father's/mother's day gift.

Love
Kirsten

From: "Sundance Resort" <summerevents@sundance-utah.com>
Date: June 20, 2012 2:04:59 PM MDT
To: "jjwaite6@aol.com" <jjwaite6@aol.com>
Subject: Ticket Order Confirmation

Order Confirmation

TicketBiscuit.com
Order Confirmation
Order #862988a7
Order Details
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Wednesday June 20, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Tickets
8 x General Admission - BENCH
Total Ticket Cost $184.00
Convenience Fees $14.00
Order Total $198.00

All ticket sales are final and tickets are non-refundable. All events are rain or shine. No outside food or drink permitted.

Monday, June 18, 2012

Melanie Girl's Camp


Melanie wrote: I will be at Young Women Camp all this week. I leave with Mikaela early in the morning. I will have my cell phone with me if you need to get in touch with me.  I love you.

(The heat is going to be the test of this camping experience...no relief, even at night. Oh, how I long for those cool Utah evenings. Aren't deserts supposed to cool down in the evening?)  Mel


Myrna wrote: It could be worse--it could be Phoenix. :)

US cities with the highest normal daily mean temperatures in June, July and August Phoenix, Arizona -93; Las Vegas, Nevada-90; Dallas, Texas-85; Austin, Texas-84; San Antonio, Texas-84; Houston, Texas-84; Miami, Florida-84; Tampa, Florida-83; New Orleans, Louisiana-83; Orlando, Florida-82; Memphis, Tennessee-81; Jacksonville, Florida-81; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma-81

 Maybe camp will be better. Where is camp?

Melanie wrote: Mt. Pleasant, TX. Just past Forney on the way to Arkansas.

Myrna wrote: Let's hope the name "Mt. Pleasant" really means that it is pleasant. Have a good time. I used to like YW camp, I think. It was a long time ago for me.


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The guest password is a familiar word that starts with T.

You can download anything I have posted using the guest password. You can upload if you sign in as me. I sent you an email with that information. Or, failing to have kept the email, you and email again or you could call or text. It isn't rocket science.

You can upload as me with the above information.

Only those with the password, as a guest, can enter the site. Only those with my contributor information can upload.

The church uses this site for missionary photosharing.

We use this site at the newspaper for photosharing.

If you can't remember the password of Trauntvein, I feel sorry for you. :)

Friday, June 15, 2012

Dad Gave You a Funny Grin, Right?


Eviction trial was this morning at 9 a.m. so I worked on it all afternoon and evening and early morning hours.  Just now getting to email. 

I actually talked to Dad on the phone.  He might remember if you tell him the kids did not pass of their swimming requirements on Wednesday so they had to go to the last day which was today. 

Next week Matthew will be at Camp Big Springs (5th grade camp) for the entire week.  So Rachel will be down Tuesday or Thursday.  I am not planning to work Wednesday, but Jared is away so I am covering the courts.

Myrna wrote: He THINKS that you are not bringing the kids today. He does not know why. He didn't hear what you said, either time. 

He actually was not certain what you said on the phone either. We will look forward to playing with Rachel. I miss them.


AnnMarie wrote: Rachel wants to come Tuesday and Thursday and miss Chinese school.  She said it would be so fun to be there so "no one would tell me what to do like they do here."

Myrna said: I know. Here, within reason, I let her tell me what to do. It is fun for us both, I guess. I just thought it was only fun for me.



Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Erin is Going to Girl's Camp with AnnMarie


David,
It is time for me to start gathering parental consent forms for girl's camp.  I am excited Erin is going with us.  I have already gotten the approvals needed for her to attend.  It starts July 31 and goes through August 4.  I am collecting the forms by June 15, so I don't know if you can sign it and scan it and send it back to me.

I'll work out picking her up from you in St. George.  Dad said he could come get her, but I could also.

One thing to note, our camp is at 10,000 feet, so the nights are pretty chilly.  Probably like what she experienced in Colorado.  She'll need to bring warm bedding and clothes.  But it also gets pretty warm in the days, so dressing in layers is the key.

I have some fun things planned for our stake:  making jewelry, hikes around the rim of the camp, canoeing on the lake, singing with a guitar in the open air, and yummy food.  She will have so much fun with Megan.  Thanks for letting her come.

I am technologically challenged, so I am sending you the link for the consent form.  Since it is a secure link, please don't forward it to anyone else.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx5d2NhbXBtaWFzaGFsb218Z3g6NDgxMDdiZjQ1YjRmY2Q1Mw.

Here is the packing list link:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx5d2NhbXBtaWFzaGFsb218Z3g6NGJmNWFkZWJlYTRiYTU1OQ&pli=1

Don't worry about the camp manual, scriptures, or secret sister gifts - I'll take care of all that.

Megan is going to mother her, so she will never feel alone or like an outsider.  (She even mothers me.)

Let me know if these links don't work.

I guess this did not come through the first time.  It just has two links for you to print.  One is the permission slip which I have asked all the wards to have to me by the 15th (or shortly after) and the other is the packing list.  Read the original email below for further details.  I am so excited to have her join us so I can connect with her better.  It is a tough age for girls, but they seem to work off some rough edges at camp.


You can text me at 801-735-7438, email me, or call me with any questions.  I am quickest with the texting - I can reply in almost any meeting I am in.

Dad and I will work out picking her up and dropping her off again.

Love,
Ams



Monday, June 11, 2012

EllaDean's Son Is Stake Patriarch


EllaDean Hunter wrote: Dear Myrna
I had some very spiritual news tonight.

My son who has been a bishop in Green River, Wyoming for 4 and a half years, will be released this week end and be made Stake Patriarch.

I am so amazed that this calling could come into our family.  We are so very thankful to our Heavenly Father.  I just don't have word to explain how thankful and grateful I am.  I Love my Heavenly Father so very much.

I just wanted you to know.

Sister Hunter.

Oh and  I saw in the church news that we are getting a new temple President. That is wonderful.  It doesn't seem that it is time yet.  


Myrna wrote: I was in Texas when you sent this. My grandson returned from a mission and gave his homecoming talk. His younger brother went to the temple to receive his endowments so he can leave on his mission. 

What a wonderful thing has happened in your family. He must be a special man to receive such a spiritual calling. How proud, as well as thankful, you must be. I just want you to know how pleased we are for you and for your family. You well deserve the blessing of having a great son because you are such a good, kind and loving woman. I know that you are a great mother. We extend our congratulations to you all. 

We now know who the president is but we still have not been told who the counselors are. I will miss President Pinegar.


EllaDean wrote: Thank you Myrna.
I am very happy for him and for our whole family.  I have felt the blessings of this calling to him in  my life.

And what a wonderful thing to have happen in your family.  I think to have family members go on missions, especially our young men.  It is such a maturing event in their lives.  I have a grandson who didn't go on a mission and he has not matured spiritually as he would have.  In fact he doesn't even go to church. He baptized his wife before they were married and she doesn't want anything to do with the church.
I pray all the time for him.  Sometimes I don't feel the Lord hears my prayers.  I'm sure He does, and time is not yet.  But I keep praying.

Thank you again.  
My love to you.
EllaDean





Things from FAIR make me uneasy


AnnMarie wrote: Things from FAIR make me uneasy

I don't believe Joseph borrowed truth from the masons.  I believe the truth existed in the masons because they are a remaining vestige of temple ceremonies that Moses had instituted.  Joseph was just restoring the truths that were here once before.  I am one of those he pokes fun of for looking around to find explanations because I believe (as did some of my religion teachers) that the truths we find in other religions and in ancient findings are indeed remaining truths from Christ's church which had been brought forth through Adam, Moses, and Abraham.  I don't like his tone that those of us who believe that way are "scrambling frantically" or are not experiencing "real humility and generosity of spirit to be taught."  By being taught reformed Egyptian and Hebrew, I don't think Joseph was acknowledging that it was needed to then borrow from others, I think it was so he could understand what truths had once been here and find them again.

Just my humble opinion.

Myrna Trauntvein wrote:
An article: "When Souls Had Wings: What the Western Tradition Has to teach Us About Pre-Existence," by Professor Terryl Givens, printed by FAIR, was the conversation topic among some of the ladies at the temple when they were eating in the lunchroom. I think I do not even begin to understand. However, this does make sense as stated in paragraph two: "The Restoration is neither full nor complete. Brigham once said, in reference to the keys of resurrection, 'This is one of the ordinances we can not receive here, and there are many more.'"

The paragraph immediately following, out of a long article, is the most objectionable paragraph and does not appear to have credit. We can bear testimony of Joseph Smith and that he served as the prophet, seer and revelator who talked with our Savior and saw Him face to face on more than one occasion. Why would anyone in communication with Christ need to borrow any information from any source. He had a direct line.

"What if, instead of scrambling frantically to find explanations when Joseph appears to have borrowed from the masons, or Ethan Smith, or Tom Dick, we instead see another marvelous possibility of his actually practicing what he preached: As Brigham characterized his position, 'If you can find a truth in heaven, earth or hell, it belongs to our doctrine. We believe it; it is ours; we claim it.' It takes real humility and generosity of spirit to be taught. Our contemporary condescension in this regard was clearly foreign to a prophet who showed the world he could translate gold plates written in Reformed Egyptian [only by revelation], then hired a Jewish schoolmaster to teach him Hebrew."

Re-reading the material, I agree totally with AnnMarie.


I would like all to read what AnnMarie wrote. I wish she had been there for the original conversation. Sometimes I just read, wonder and ponder and don't think as deeply as I should. Thanks AnnMarie.

We should also consider the words which follow:

“What Hath God Wrought through His Servant Joseph!” BY PRESIDENT GORDON B. HINCKLEY, bears testimony of the greatness of Joseph Smith.

"The words of William W. Phelps’s great hymn always stir me: “Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah! Jesus anointed that Prophet and Seer. Blessed to open the last dispensation, kings shall extol him, and nations revere” (“Praise to the Man,” Hymns, number 27).

"The life and ministry of the Prophet Joseph Smith are indeed the substance of great things and remarkable events. They have created a legacy that will continue to increase among mankind. He was the Lord’s latter-day servant who was chosen to bear witness anew of the resurrected Christ.

"To a world plagued with doubt over the actuality of the Resurrection, Joseph Smith testified unequivocally of the risen, living Christ. That testimony was spoken in many ways and under many circumstances.

"First, he spoke out of the experience of his incomparable vision of the Father and the Son, whom he both saw and heard. They were individual personages of form and substance, of body and voice. They spoke with him as one man speaketh with another (see Ex. 33:11).

"Secondly, as the instrumentality through which came the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith has borne witness of the Savior to all who have read and will read that volume. Its constantly recurring message is a testimony of the promised Messiah who came to earth and gave his life for the sins of all mankind and who rose triumphant from the grave as “the firstfruits of them that slept” (1 Cor. 15:20).

"Thirdly, Joseph Smith bore witness of the living Lord through the church which carries the name of Jesus Christ. Its members are expected by precept and example to bear witness of Him in whose name they meet and serve.

"Fourthly, Joseph Smith testified of the risen Lord when by the power of his prophetic office he spoke these remarkable words:

“And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!

“For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—

“That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God” (D&C 76:22–24).

Finally, he sealed that testimony with his life’s blood, dying a martyr to the truths of which he had spoken concerning the Redeemer of the world, in whose name he had carried on his ministry.

"The Prophet Joseph Smith was a preeminent witness of the living Christ."



Saturday, June 9, 2012

Dad Returned It Without Problem

Myrna wrote: I don't know why the Redbox yesterday acted like it did. Dad just went into 7-11 this a.m. and asked for help from the man working and it just went right in.

Kimberly wrote: There was an out order sign on it the next morning.

Shawn wrote: Thanks, the machine in Cortez had a "broken" sign on it the next day. Thanks for returning it.

Myrna wrote: Oh, that was why. I didn't go to the machine with Julie but she said that it kept telling her that she needed to swipe a credit card first.

Kimberly wrote: Can you give me the photobucket information?

Friday, June 8, 2012

Visit Brigitta

Kimberly: Although Brigitta can't come with us, she is available until 6pm tues. Just email her.

Myrna: We are leaving Nephi early enough that we can meet Jim and Julie at 10 a.m. at Salina. I don't know how long it will take us to get there. Do you?

Brigitta: About 2 hours and 23 minutes according to mapquest. So I'll see you around 1:00 pm to 2:00 pm?

Myrna: Sounds great. I know that Gramps plans on driving a bit slower because of the trailer. But it should work.

Brigitta: Alright, can't wait to see you! I love ya guys, just text 801-869-4746 when you're near.

Myrna: How long does the trip take you?

Brigitta: Half an hour to town

Myrna: It was a short visit but so worth it. Thanks for coming to see us!

Brigitta: Haha, you're the ones that when out of your way! :P I hope you guys had fun! Miss ya!
-Brigitta

Visit to Brigitta

Kimberly wrote: Although she can't come with us, she is available until 6 p.m. Tuesday. Just email her.

Myrna wrote: We are leaving Nephi early enough that we can meet Jim and Julie at 10 a.m. at Salina. I don't know how long it will take us to get there. Do you?

Brigitta wrote: About 2 hours and 23 minutes according to mapquest. So I'll see you around 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m.?

Myrna wrote: Sounds great. I know that Gramps plans on driving a bit slower because of the trailer. But it should work.

Brigitta wrote: Alright, can't wait to see you! I love ya guys, just text 801-869-4746 when you're near.

Myrna wrote: How long does the trip take you?

Brigitta wrote: Half an hour to town.

Myrna wrote: It was a short visit but so worth it. Thanks for coming to see us!

Thursday, June 7, 2012

Price Cemetery Visit


Stephanie, Julie, Jens, Christene, and Mary Jones at the Price City Cemetery on Memorial Day.

Monday, June 4, 2012

Price Census 1940


Just found Grandma and Grandpa Pitts.  Looks like Ruth Pitts lists them as living with her.  Shows Grandpa's employment, how many hours he worked, that Grandma Pitts was not working, education level reached by all listed, value of residence, that Grandma Pitts had lived in Emery County prior to this, etc.
 
Here is the link for this page of the Price census:  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-27861-11669-15?cc=2000219&wc=MMGW-6NL:n27819400.  Hopefully you can click on the link, if not, copy and paste.  Again, the zoom is in the upper right hand corner.  The mark next to Ruth shows she was the one who gave the information.  It shows neighbors and other data, as well.

I am attaching the Word copy of this also. I tried to crop it and hopefully this is readable.  Brandon is asleep and so I am on my own with the program I hate the most (sorry Word fans).   

Ams

Myrna wrote: I also hate that program but it looks fine. I downloaded it as word but cannot figure out how to post it to the blog. It is interesting and, please note, that the 1920 census spelled the surname wrong so this is an improvement.

WHAT IS BONEY COAL‏?


WHAT IS BONEY COAL AND WHAT WERE THE BONEY DUMPS?



I thought you had all heard Dad talk about those who were boney pickers. He did not look down on them because everyone was necessary. There were also nippers, motormen, blasters, loaders. Now there are continuous miners and front end loaders and there are no boney pickers.



"Boney" (or bony) is a type of coal that contains more rock than coal, and it was once sorted out and discarded. Kenilworth did have a high grade of coal but there is no mine that does not have rock and overburden in the coal it produces. Coal is found in seams and some are thicker than others. Kenilworth, and most Utah mines, have deep seams. Remember that lump coal was used to heat homes, rather than the slack which came into use when stokers were invented. Since the coal was mined in larger pieces, there would be larger pieces of stone in it.



 In the days before cleaning plants, boney pickers labored inside the tipple and separated good coal from pieces of slate, rock, and sulfur. In the early days of mining, the thankless job paid so little that usually young boys and older men performed this task. Many boys under the age of fifteen used to work up to twelve hour days until laws were passed that required boys to be fifteen years old. Later, the number of hours that boys worked were reduced to protect their health and allow them the time to get an education. Grandpa only graduated from the eighth grade, though he later took mine bossing courses, because he started working so young.


There was a time that the term "boney picker' also denoted a person who was lazy. Older men sometimes chose to be a boney picker to earn just enough money to buy liquor. The term also denoted someone who was poor, because many poor people used to scour the "boney dumps" to pick out usable coal from unwanted coal.

Later the job was more of an entry level job into the mining industry. Unions made certain that all miners were paid a working wage and, as in Kenilworth, housing was available for miners. Of course, there was still a "silk stocking row," where the bosses lived. There was also a company store where, as Johnny Cash sang, many miners owed their "souls to the company store." That was because they could buy on credit and pay when the paycheck came. I think you all remember that Grandma would send you to the store to buy something for her and would tell you to put it on her bill. She would, later, go up and pay off what was owed.

Nowadays, boney coal is crushed into a powdery form and burned at electrical generating plants.

As an aside, there was also a time when young boys were used as chimney sweeps, because their small bodies could fit inside of chimneys. Once inside, they used a special broom to remove the soot from the walls of the chimney that had built up over time. (If chimneys weren't cleaned, smoke would not be able to escape and therefore would back up into the house.) Unfortunately, these boys would breathe in a lot of fine soot that collected in their lungs. Many of them developed a bad cough and many had trouble breathing. Many of them also died young, as young as the age of twenty.

Kenilworth Census 1940‏


AnnMarie wrote: I was indexing tonight and decided to look at the Utah records that have already been indexed.  These are from 1940 Census, Utah, Kenilworth.  (I looked at Price, but haven't had luck yet finding Pitts.)

For those who don't index, the mark next to Gladys means she was the person who reported the information.  Dad, you should recognize names of neighbors that are above and below the Trauntvein name.  If you haven't indexed, looking at the writing might be difficult, but your eyes will adjust.  It appears the last name was spelled incorrectly by the census taker.  (I'd be interested to see how the people indexing the record spelled it.)  It records Grandpa's employment and other fun facts like the fact Dad was single and 5 years old.

Here is the direct link to the record:  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-27861-12019-55?cc=2000219&wc=MMGW-6N3:1360322857.  Just copy and paste the link into your browser.  Once the page opens, on the left hand near the top there is a "zoom" button, click on that and it will enlarge the image.  Then just move the image around using you mouse control.

Attached is the snapshot of the page saved in Word.  It is hard to see, but again, you can enlarge the image. (Myrna wrote: I saved the image to the computer.)

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By the way, the questions at the top of the document are very blurry on this census.  But if you go to Family Search indexing, it will show you a sample 1940 census so you can see what questions Grandma was answering to understand the symbols on the record.  For example, it shows that Dad was reported not attending school, his gender, race, and information about Grandpa's and Grandma's schooling.  Looking closer I see the name of a teacher in Kenilworth, the McGuires whom I assume are the Screwdrivers (remember Dad's story about Mr. Screwdriver), some bony pickers from the mine (not sure what that is), etc.

Myrna wrote: Boney pickers were the people who hand-picked rock from the good coal.

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