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Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Re: What a Pain


I either need to install a new power supply for my computer or buy a new one. I told Allan, the boss, I was going to fix it and he said I was a dumb  ________.
Life is interesting.
He thinks I should buy a referb iMac for $800 rather than fix my computer for $300.
Opinions please.
Shawn wrote: Was that what the place in American Fork said?
Myrna wrote: Actually, Allan thinks that I am not dumb but that my decision is. He has patiently tried to explain that it is not wise. It reminds me of HTP when he was talking to me about cars and why some used cars were better than fixing some old cars.
I really know so little about computers that I have no idea what is the best. I know what LHT thinks but I don't know if we are right or not. I just can't figure that I can spend that amount of money right now. I just spent that much for property taxes. Then there is Christmas. I wonder why everything breaks down when I can't afford it to break down?
Shawn wrote: Have you ordered it already? There may be less expensive places to get replacement power supplies (they are not manufactured by Apple, so not under Apple Warranty, but your computer warranty is expired anyway):
Myrna wrote: The replacement will cost $271 for parts and labor. Of that, $75 is for labor. The part will have the apple warrantee. I would owe them $49 of that, at any rate, for the diagnostic. Of course, all of this depends on their being able to get an apple part. 
A hard drive upgrade would cost another $99 for the part. That does not include labor or the fee for downloading my data.
Shawn wrote: Well, there is not much danger of them not being able to get the part.
Myrna wrote: That isn't what they said. They have to use apple. They said it is on the antiquated list.
Shawn wrote: I’ll copy Todd, so he can weigh in on this.
Maybe what Alan isn’t considering is that you still need data off your old hard-drive. If you buy an iMac, perhaps the best remaining option would be to remove the hard-drive from your G4 and put it in an external hard-drive enclosure and then attach it to the USB or Firewire connector on the iMac. But if you can get your former computer working, then you could use the external hard-drive you already have to do your backups, and to get the rest of your pictures off. With your other computer, we may also have the option of attaching your hard-drive from your even older computer, to try and retrieve information from it (since your floppy drive has gone out). Your G4 has room for two hard-drives, but they have to be Ultra ATA 66 or 100. So, the older computer’s drive may not move over. Perhaps we could just network the oldest computer with whichever you choose, and also get the data off that way. But still, if you got an iMac, we would need to get the data off the G4 also.
As for the iMac, the one thing I don’t like about it is that the drives are built in kind of the back of the monitor. So, if you have drive problems, or if the monitor has problems, they are kind of all one unit and it makes things more complicated. They are also more compact, I think, so the drive replacements will cost more. I believe they make it so you can open it to do the work, but it is not as easy. Kimberly said her father was working on the hard-drive on an iMac (he does data recovery) and it was all kinds of fun to get into. On the iMac, I know they are going for space savings, but there is a reason that the more open architectures have remained popular. The only drawbacks I can think of to more open architecture are space savings. But you already have a notebook, and those already are a little more closed in architecture, and the notebook is newer. So I don’t see the need to upgrade your main computer at the present. That would put both your computers at about the same age. I am not sure that seems wise, especially if you are pinching pennies. I would probably wait a bit.
I can understand Alan’s concern that your machine is quickly becoming obsolete, and that you are dumping money into it, and something else may go soon. Especially since the power-supply by itself costs so much. I still can’t believe that we cannot recover the power-supply from a used G4, or get an aftermarket one that wouldn’t work. But as for not buying and iMac, you still have the data recovery issues and you still have a newer notebook, so it is not like you will be down if another failure occurs. They are refurbished iMacs anyway, and I don’t know that we would know how many hours have been logged on the machine, since they do not have odometers or engine hour gauges like cars and tractors, and they usually only replace any part that is not in operating tolerances.
Myrna wrote: There is one other point to consider that LHT and I have given careful thought to--my printer will not work with an iMac and neither will my scanner. I did ask about upgrading my hard drive. The one they sell at Simply Mac is $90. That does not include installation nor downloading of data. It didn't sound like they add it to the computer but that they replace what you already have. 
Todd wrote: In business, we upgrade every 3 years. We are not buying the top of the line when we make our initial investment, but after 3 years of 2,080 hours of use each year, they have literally been used up. Personally, I bought a computer in 1992. Added a little memory to it in 1998, bought a new one in 2001 and now a new one in 2009. I have always done a mid-life upgrade of memory and hard drive, since those are the items that change the fastest with the architecture (until the modern display changes).If you have the money and are ready for a new machine, then buy a new one (be it new, or refurbished). I don't use MACs. I know they have their place in the world, but I've never really had a need for one. If you go that route, it seems that you should be able to buy Shawn dinner in the yellow kitchen and he could harvest the information off your old drive for you. Distance makes that a little less of a possibility for me, but you know if I were there I would do it. Guaranteed, he won't cuss at you, that part is for sure and for certain. Love, T
Kirsten wrote: The only problem with refurb iMacs is that there is no warranty.  I would probably fix and save up for a new/old iMac.
Myrna wrote: That's what we thought. Allan said, however, that the iMac he was looking at did have a one-year warranty.
Kirsten wrote: Interesting.  I might do that, then.  That's a lot cheaper than the $1800 - $2500 for a brand newbie one...







Tasty Oatmeal Cookies


Grandma’s Favorite Soft Oatmeal Cookies
Prep Time: 15 minutes
Cook Time: 10 minutes
Servings: 24
These oatmeal cookies are very moist with a good flavor. Add one cup of raisins, one cup of nuts or one cup of chocolate chips or M&Ms if you desire.
Ingredients:
I cup butter, softened
1 cup white sugar
1 cup brown sugar, packed
2 eggs
1-teaspoon vanilla extract
2 cups all-purpose flour
1-teaspoon baking soda
1-teaspoon salt
1-teaspoon ground cinnamon
3 cups quick OR old fashioned cooking oats
Directions:
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees F. In a medium bowl, cream together butter and sugars. Beat in eggs one at a time. Stir in vanilla. Combine flour, baking soda, salt and cinnamon in a separate bowl. Stir into the creamed mixture. Mix in oats. Cover and chill dough for one hour. (I always skip this step and, though a bit sticky to work with, it works.) Grease cookie sheets. Roll dough into walnut sized pieces and place 2-inches apart on cookie sheets. Flatten each cookie with a large fork dipped in sugar. Bake for 8 to 10 minutes in preheated oven.  Allow cookies to cool on cookie sheet for five minutes before transferring to a wire rack to cool completely.

What makes a power pack go bad?

Myrna wrote: What makes a power pack go bad? Do I have to worry about that happening in the future, again? Is it something that I am doing wrong?


Shawn wrote: Well, a power supply simply has some transformer(s), capacitors, diodes, and other electronic components that reduce the current, level it out, and to change it to direct current. This process builds a lot of heat, so the power supplies usually have one or more fans solely dedicated to keeping those components from over-heating. Most of the components are pretty durable, but spikes in electricity can damage them, or over time they can also fail. As they become clogged with dust, heat failure may be more of a concern. Our computers at home are often on, and it is surprising how much dust they can build up (you can see some of it on the rear fan, but there is more dust that gets caught inside. Using a power strip that has noise and spike leveling will help save the power supply components from taking the brunt of it, but in the end there is little more that you can do. I vacuum my rear fan sometimes to try and get some of the dust out of the power supply. On a PC they only cost $30 to $70 typically, so there is not as huge a concern with replacing them. The less the computer is on, the less dust will get sucked in. In the end, I think your computer was built in the early 2000s, and that is a long life for a power supply.


Todd wrote: It happens. Things get old. Sometimes they go and sometimes they don't. Best thing is to turn the computer off when you are done each night. Even the eight hours you are in bed is a 33% savings on the power supply.

Myrna wrote: Well, thanks Allan. He told me to leave it on sleep and that would save the battery.

Todd wrote: Battery costs $2.50 at any grocery store.



Mt Pleasant Christmas Tree

Julie wrote: we put up our xmas tree and just wanted to share some pics. love you jim julie family

Kirsten wrote: It's real!!!!  I miss those!!!


Shawn wrote: A pretty tree and a happy family, it doesn’t get better than that.







Well, since it usually takes a month to close on a house, maybe we will be able to put up a Christmas Tree also. An offer that was getting started last week wanted us out the week before Christmas, but we have not heard back since then. May have fallen through.

Here's Myrna


For Else

Dear Else, these are the e-mail addresses for the Durfeys.

redbot41@yahoo.com 

bethdurfey@gmail.com

Sjogren syndrome‏


Guess what I got tested for? Of course, I didn't have this but they tested me--dry eyes, dry mouth, dry skin and aching joints. I think that I look like $$ to the doctor. Maybe that is what happens as you get older. The doctors start to think that you must have something. . .

Sjogren syndrome is an autoimmune disorder in which the glands that produce tears and saliva are destroyed. This leads to dry mouth, decreased tearing, and other dry mucous membranes. The condition may affect many different parts of the body, including the kidneys and lungs.

Symptoms:
Dryness of the mouth and eyes are the most common symptoms of this syndrome.

Computer Woes

Myrna wrote: I either need to install a new power supply for my computer or buy a new one. I told Allan, the boss, I was going to fix it and he said I was a dumb *&#@.


Life is interesting.

He thinks I should buy a referb iMac for $800 rather than fix my computer for $300.

Opinions please.

Todd wrote: My opinion? You don't want.

Call him a "dumb *&#@" right back. Fire his kiester. Do whatever you want, you're an adult. When he is forced back out of retirement to cover all the silly meetings you attend and to fill his paper with all the articles you write, then perhaps you could point out to him that his choice of nomenclature was really in error.

Al wrote: Once you buy an iMac you will never go back to a PC.
al
 
Al Pitts 
Manufacturing Engineering 
Affordability Task Force 

Myrna wrote: I have a G4 Mac and a Macbook, so I agree. It is the G4 that needs a new power source. It is seven years old.

Al wrote: 
Cuz:
I'm wondering if you need to work for some one that uses such language or refers to such language (*&#@)?
Here at Boeing where I work I do not have to put up with such language, if I want I can simply get up and leave the area until it stops. Of course pay continues.
Love you
Ps. Who is Allan?
Al Pitts 
Manufacturing Engineering 
Affordability Task Force 

Myrna wrote: Allan Gibson is the owner/publisher of the Nephi Times News. He is a church renegade and uses such language because he can. His dad was very active in the church and held many leadership positions. His brother, Vance, who used to co-run the paper was also active. Both died because of diabetes. His surviving brother is an instructor at BYU. Allan likes to shock. His wife is nice and his daughter is active in the church. She is supposed to inherit the paper at some point. Other than his bad language, he has no other bad habits such as smoking or drinking. He says he is the bad seed. He does have a lot of good traits and does treat me well. We are good friends but he is blunt.

Shawn wrote: Was that what the place in American Fork said?

Myrna wrote: The place in American Fork closed last week. We went to Simply Mac that is on the same lot with the mall in Orem. It is just at the end.


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