Myrna wrote: Have I offended AGAIN by being me?
Kirsten wrote: I think some family members think they have offended you. Don't stress. In two days we'll each be talking to someone about how awesome all these photos are that our mom has taken and sent to us. Some of the family do use the photos a lot.
Todd is actually one who does use the CDs, just not frequently. Did you hear David and Todd talking about the downloads they had been doing and compiling?
Love you! We all do. :)
Kirsten
Myrna wrote: Well, I didn't let anyone offend me but I did let myself become angry.
Kirsten wrote: It's called being a family. Dang it! :)
Myrna wrote: I hope that eternal families don't still have tempers. I've worked all of my life to master mine and it still gets the upper hand on some occasions. I guess I will just have to start over and work harder. Goodness Gracious! I am running out of years.
Monday, October 24, 2011
Bees
Merilyn: Hey—hope that semi-load of bees wasn’t your sons! Is everything OK over there? Merilyn
Myrna wrote: So far! They are extracting this week. That did happen to us, however, a few years ago. It takes a couple of years to recover from that. It isn't just the loss of the bees it is also the fact that the hive numbers have to be built back up. All those hives take time and money to build and then, instead of allowing your bees (who are dead) to make new queens for new hives you have to buy the pricey queens from some place legal that sells them (often Hawaii). It was a pain! The biggest income to a beekeeper isn't the honey it is the pollination which begins in California and Florida right after the new year. There is no way to build up the number of hives to be considered for that at this time of year.
By the way, the photos are driving us all nuts.
Myrna wrote: You know what? Just forget it.
Kirsten wrote: Send them to me and I'll compile. All I have to do is left-click, add to iPhoto and viola, it's done. I've already moved all the ones you already sent over. If anyone wants copies, they can ask me. Does that work? You have to use your downstairs computer and then delete all the photos so you have enough storage; I have a huge backup, so I can keep them stored all in a "Trauntvein" file. I'm grateful to have all the photos.
Myrna wrote: OK. I will do that. Thanks for your help. I keep trying to do nice things and they keep not being nice.
Kirsten wrote: Send them to me and I'll compile. All I have to do is left-click, add to iPhoto and viola, it's done. I've already moved all the ones you already sent over. If anyone wants copies, they can ask me. Does that work? You have to use your downstairs computer and then delete all the photos so you have enough storage; I have a huge backup, so I can keep them stored all in a "Trauntvein" file. I'm grateful to have all the photos.
Myrna wrote: OK. I will do that. Thanks for your help. I keep trying to do nice things and they keep not being nice.
Talk Over All Your Ideas
Myrna wrote: Talk over all your ideas with AnnMarie and Julie. They both have concerns with sites. I didn't used to but, last week, I typed my name into google because I was looking for an article I had written a number of years ago. I found it, no surprise. I also found, on public access, three e-mails I had sent to others from my sisna account way back then. They were word for word--my reply to one and the email they had sent me--and I started to think that once something is on the web it is on the web. I don't know if I am just worried of ghosts and goblins but it did make me think.
Of course, that being said, I have sent the photos via email.
Kirsten wrote: I still think we can upload a majority of photos using a secure site. We could leave those with ams and Julie's kids off. Most of the photos I think the majority of us want are the younger years of our family and genealogy type photos. What does everyone else think?
David wrote: Wow so many email strings consisting of the same subject...lol. I hope we can merge to this one string.
My two cents: I prefer a cd or I could do the storage site. The email could work for me, only if I create a new Gmail address that would be used just for pictures. My desk time is limited and I would like to go through the pictures at my own pace and organize them into folders. Don't know if that helps?
Love ya all or all ya all
David
Myrna wrote: Dad thinks I am nuts for even doing the photos at all: "When we die, if they want them, they can copy them. It will give them something to talk about for a few days. If we make it another 10 years, the technology will be so much better you'll wonder why you wasted your time." You noted who started this email business (me). Sixteen people communicating.
I appreciate your opinions. Thanks for sharing. Most of you were much calmer than I was.
I actually appreciate everyone's opinions. Well, there are some exceptions. I do not like listening to some of the politicians' opinions but I get paid to do that. I think a few people on the national scene are nuts and I don't get paid for that. I think it is wisest for mom to not have opinions. I also think the sky is usually blue but I could be wrong.
Of course, that being said, I have sent the photos via email.
Kirsten wrote: I still think we can upload a majority of photos using a secure site. We could leave those with ams and Julie's kids off. Most of the photos I think the majority of us want are the younger years of our family and genealogy type photos. What does everyone else think?
David wrote: Wow so many email strings consisting of the same subject...lol. I hope we can merge to this one string.
My two cents: I prefer a cd or I could do the storage site. The email could work for me, only if I create a new Gmail address that would be used just for pictures. My desk time is limited and I would like to go through the pictures at my own pace and organize them into folders. Don't know if that helps?
Love ya all or all ya all
David
Myrna wrote: Dad thinks I am nuts for even doing the photos at all: "When we die, if they want them, they can copy them. It will give them something to talk about for a few days. If we make it another 10 years, the technology will be so much better you'll wonder why you wasted your time." You noted who started this email business (me). Sixteen people communicating.
I appreciate your opinions. Thanks for sharing. Most of you were much calmer than I was.
I actually appreciate everyone's opinions. Well, there are some exceptions. I do not like listening to some of the politicians' opinions but I get paid to do that. I think a few people on the national scene are nuts and I don't get paid for that. I think it is wisest for mom to not have opinions. I also think the sky is usually blue but I could be wrong.
Drat All These Photos
You'll note that I have named the photo (Master'sDegreeDad7.jpg) wrong. I hope you will all rename it. Dad says that this was his Educational Specialist Degree. The photos showing Dad with Shawn prior to his mission were his Master's Degree and those showing Shawn after his mission were his Ed. Specialist Degree. Sorry about that.
Kirsten wrote: Yes, it was his ed specialist--notice the ring on mel's finger... That's what I remember about this graduation was that it was right after Mel got engaged. :)
Now see, you should have all been at my shoulder when I did these. I am doing my albums page by page because everyone wants the OLD photos rather than the new ones. I am tired of making all those CDs. You can compile them and make your own. Hehehe.
Of course, being the blue person that I am, I will gladly make you a CD, IF you want me to. Eric wants the CDs. Any other takers? E-mail me a request.
As an aside, why can Melanie only receive one photo at a time on her email? If I send two, the message comes back as undeliverable. The same is true of Jim and Karma.
Todd wrote: Answer to your last question... I answered already and here it goes again. Your emails are pushing people over their quotas. They can't receive any emails including this response until they download the photos to a local copy on their PC. I believe, if you want to know proactively who would rather have a CD, look at your bounce-back notices and those that say they are over-quota are all good candidates for CDs. Thanks for scanning in the photos. It will likely take a number of weeks and months to do this knowing the volume of photos you have. Sounds like a good process of checks and balances could be set up so that you don't send duplicates and yet are able to disperse the photos. You might think about uploading them to a site where you can control who is seeing the photos. There are any number of sharing spaces our there from DropBox to Picassa. You would need to check them according to security.
DropBox is a popular one. Once you fill up the free space, you could give everyone a few days to copy down the photos they want and then you can clobber the space with new ones. Google, BING or Yahoo for "free online storage". There are a lot of options out there. Of course, you already know about this quota stuff and online storage. I know I am pointing out the obvious.
Myrna wrote: AnnMarie doesn't think there is a safe site. Yours and Jim and Karma's are the only ones I have received back, so far.
Todd wrote: There are safe sites.
Kirsten wrote: I agree. Maybe just don't post the ones with AnnMarie's family online to respect her wishes. Kirsten
Myrna wrote: Talk to AnnMarie about it. She deals with people who take little kid's photos off of facebook and make them into porn.
Kirsten wrote: They can only get them off if your settings are open and/or you befriend sickos.
Myrna wrote: Not true. If your friend's friends befriend sickos (and you don't always know who is one) they can get them. By the way, just so you know, I have four convicted child sex offenders on the two blocks surrounding my house. They all started out with family members and moved on to the world in general.
Kirsten wrote: Actually, I have my facebook set to only friends. Not even friends of friends can see what's on my page. You can also adjust your settings to say that only a select list (besides your friends) can see your posts, page, etc. The number one problem of people who get hacked or have their pictures abused is that they don't know how to protect it. But, we're not talking about having you store on facebook. You can use Walmart, you can use Sam's club, you can use PicasaWeb. All are protected (if you make sure you select the right settings each time you upload).
Just my two cents. Kirsten
Todd: You can prevent friends friends in most cases. If you can't -- just don't use that location. Where there is a will, there is a way.
Why are you resending all these?
Myrna wrote: The others are too small a dpi. These are not. Discard the earlier ones because they are pretty much useless.
Todd wrote: Yup. Your e-mails are too large.
Yes... larger and chewing up even more of my e-mail space. I love seeing these and am very thankful that you are scanning them in. The flip side to that is that you have successfully brought mine and Amy's e-mail to a grinding halt. I don't know about everyone else, but I have a server quota and that quota doesn't decrease at 4am, because we aren't awake with our computer on at 4am when you are sending them at 2am. Better to send on a CD, in my opinion.
Myrna wrote: OK. For you, it is a CD. Thanks for letting me know. Any others out there? I am not going to do CDs for people who have told me that they just discard them. That is a waste of my time. Yes, I do still value my time.
I will make a CD for you. You can do as you wish.
Kirsten said that, if a photo is ever to be used for anything that requires it to be enlarged, it needs to have a larger dpi. She suggested 1200 dpi. That is what we (Donette Smith and I) also had to use (at the media department's request) to submit photos to the BYU for Grandpa Ray's service with the national guard in the conflict with Mexico. I have dumbed these down to between 600 and 750 dpi. They cannot be used for movies but will be OK on home DVDs. (I think that no one but family will care about that.) Some email service providers can accommodate the 1200 dpi, like BYU and the U of U, for example, but most cannot. I am doing my best to preserve records for the future. I hope it works because I will not live forever. As ill as I was last year, I thought that I would soon join Garth and Richard but, thanks to the tender mercies of my Heavenly Father, I think Dr. Thorpe has found a way to make my life more pleasant. If I eat right and take my $75 per month meds, I should be around for a few more years. Therefore, I am trying to get done what I think I should do. I know it comes as a surprise to all of you but Dad and I are getting older. We still have some kick, mostly Dad (except for his one knee), but the list of things that I can no longer do is growing. Gone are the days of French fries and foot races (and rootbeer).
Kirsten wrote: f you want to send them to me as large as you can (I'm not sure mine can do 1200 dpi), I can compile CD's for those who want them... My email won't get overloaded (or hasn't yet) and iPhoto is a wonder to work with... Happy to help any way. You could do google or picassa (I think that's what google uses, right?) like Todd suggested and just turn on the privacy settings. Kirsten
Myrna wrote: You do realize that it takes quite a bit of time to burn CDs for 9 people (including one for myself). I have been doing it for years and have learned that few of you really want them at any rate. Maybe one or two photos every few months but that is all. The only way to send a 1200 dpi, other than to the Y, is to burn it to a CD.
Thursday, October 20, 2011
nice looking young men
Dear Friends,
Thank you for sending three good looking young men to give Russ a Priesthood blessing. Jim annointed, Shawn sealed the annointing and gave the blessing and all three laid their hands upon Russ's head.
It was a very special moment. Thank you for sharing your family with us.
Russ made it until Tuesday morning when Dr. Scott Petersen extracted his wisdom tooth. All went well.
Thank you again.
Russ and Colleen Bender
Myrna wrote: You are welcome! We would do all we could to help any time. LHT and Julie were cooking the steaks for dinner and had a faint air of smoke about them. He would have showered and come if he had been alone but three young men were here!!!!!
I lost my wisdom teeth when I was a teen. No wonder Russ has always been smarter than I am--he still had wisdom teeth.
64 Women Spend a Year Making Needlepoint
From Grammy's Gleanings: 64 Women Spend a Year Making Needlepoint
Sixty-four women of the Manti and Ephraim Stakes of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints made a special tour of the Manti LDS Temple the day before its open house for the public began.
The women toured the building in reverential awe--until they arrived in one special sealing room just off the entrance to the Celestial Room. There, the quiet tour participants did a strange thing. One by one, they turned the chairs over. Reverent hands fingered needlepoint diamonds of sea-green. Ninety-five pieces of exquisite needlepoint were examined in minute detail. Names on the back of the chairs were sought and noted. Then, once again, an almost-awed silence settled in for a moment.
The 64 women had spent a creating the 95-pieces of needlepoint covering the chairs and altar in the sealing room. Sixty-four pairs of hands had meticulously stitched the special design prepared by Florence Jacobsen, interior decorator for the Manti Temple.
Mrs. Jacobsen said this particular needlepoint project was unique within the church. She thanked the women who had turned her design into upholstered works of art wrought in fine Persian yarn.
Helen Dyreng, Stake Relief Society President, echoed Mrs. Jacobsen's praise. "A great deal of love, care and pride was sewn into each article by wonderfully dedicated women," she said.
Mrs. Marjorie Tibbs, Stake Homemaking Counselor, was chairman for the project. Mrs. Lily Jane Miller was project co-chairman and a supervisor. Mrs. June Cos, Manti, and Mrs. Colleen Nielson, Mrs. Bonnie Olson, and Mrs. Barbara Bailey, all of Ephraim, were project supervisors.
"As we turned the chairs over, looking for our names," said one of the needlepointers, "I thought, 'I wish my Grandma could be here to see this.' Then I realized, she probably was."
"Concern, sacrifice and a high quality of artistic handwork are the earmarks of this project," Mrs. Dyreng assured the women.
[Editor's note: The article above was printed in a newspaper but was taken from a photocopy. I was unable to determine which newspaper carried the original article nor who was author of the piece.] Posted By Myrna Rae Trauntvein to Grammy's Gleanings at 10/19/2003 11:01:00 AM
Myrna wrote: Merilyn Jorgensen, Do you have a copy of this and do you know where it was published?
Merilyn wrote: PS thinking back, I’m recalling that this was in the Des. News—maybe Church section. They had quite a few things in when the temple was re-dedicated.
Myrna wrote: I looked there. Thanks for thinking with me.
Merilyn wrote: Myrna, I found the original J I’ve been going thru my memorabilia, and found the article in question. There was a special supplement to the Manti Messenger, July 1985. There was no by-line, but there was a note elsewhere in the paper, from the editor, thanking staff for all their work during the open-house and dedication. He noted all the hours by Pat Mellor in researching details, etc., so I’m pretty sure she wrote this one.
I haven’t even cut out all the articles I’ve saved—let alone put them in an album. You’ve inspired me—I’m going to get to work on my ‘temple’ albumJ As a side note, I should tell you my story of doing the needlepoint, and what my grandma had to do with it. I need to write it up for my album/posterity.
Please keep sending me these ‘goodies’. Merilyn
PS my name IS on a chair:)
PS #2 I’ve always called my little grandma ‘Grammy’.
PS again—the reporter at that time was likely Bruce Jennings, but it also may have been Linnie Findlay (who did this one.) THE OTHER ONE
OOPS!
Thanx again, my friend.
Merilyn wrote: Did you get my latest—with correct info??
Myrna wrote: Three cheers for you (or 20 or 100)! Yes, I did. I answered this one before I read that one. Sorry! I meant to answer it but I was not feeling well and went to bed instead.
Merilyn wrote: Sorry—hope you’re feeling better today. Some days are just the pits—many more than we’d like.
Sixty-four women of the Manti and Ephraim Stakes of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints made a special tour of the Manti LDS Temple the day before its open house for the public began.
The women toured the building in reverential awe--until they arrived in one special sealing room just off the entrance to the Celestial Room. There, the quiet tour participants did a strange thing. One by one, they turned the chairs over. Reverent hands fingered needlepoint diamonds of sea-green. Ninety-five pieces of exquisite needlepoint were examined in minute detail. Names on the back of the chairs were sought and noted. Then, once again, an almost-awed silence settled in for a moment.
The 64 women had spent a creating the 95-pieces of needlepoint covering the chairs and altar in the sealing room. Sixty-four pairs of hands had meticulously stitched the special design prepared by Florence Jacobsen, interior decorator for the Manti Temple.
Mrs. Jacobsen said this particular needlepoint project was unique within the church. She thanked the women who had turned her design into upholstered works of art wrought in fine Persian yarn.
Helen Dyreng, Stake Relief Society President, echoed Mrs. Jacobsen's praise. "A great deal of love, care and pride was sewn into each article by wonderfully dedicated women," she said.
Mrs. Marjorie Tibbs, Stake Homemaking Counselor, was chairman for the project. Mrs. Lily Jane Miller was project co-chairman and a supervisor. Mrs. June Cos, Manti, and Mrs. Colleen Nielson, Mrs. Bonnie Olson, and Mrs. Barbara Bailey, all of Ephraim, were project supervisors.
"As we turned the chairs over, looking for our names," said one of the needlepointers, "I thought, 'I wish my Grandma could be here to see this.' Then I realized, she probably was."
"Concern, sacrifice and a high quality of artistic handwork are the earmarks of this project," Mrs. Dyreng assured the women.
[Editor's note: The article above was printed in a newspaper but was taken from a photocopy. I was unable to determine which newspaper carried the original article nor who was author of the piece.] Posted By Myrna Rae Trauntvein to Grammy's Gleanings at 10/19/2003 11:01:00 AM
Myrna wrote: Merilyn Jorgensen, Do you have a copy of this and do you know where it was published?
Merilyn wrote: No—I don’t think I have this either!! But I recognize my comment about my grandma J. I’m sure it was in the Manti Messenger, but have no clue who wrote it.
Merilyn wrote: PS thinking back, I’m recalling that this was in the Des. News—maybe Church section. They had quite a few things in when the temple was re-dedicated.
Myrna wrote: I looked there. Thanks for thinking with me.
Merilyn wrote: Myrna, I found the original J I’ve been going thru my memorabilia, and found the article in question. There was a special supplement to the Manti Messenger, July 1985. There was no by-line, but there was a note elsewhere in the paper, from the editor, thanking staff for all their work during the open-house and dedication. He noted all the hours by Pat Mellor in researching details, etc., so I’m pretty sure she wrote this one.
I haven’t even cut out all the articles I’ve saved—let alone put them in an album. You’ve inspired me—I’m going to get to work on my ‘temple’ albumJ As a side note, I should tell you my story of doing the needlepoint, and what my grandma had to do with it. I need to write it up for my album/posterity.
Please keep sending me these ‘goodies’. Merilyn
PS my name IS on a chair:)
PS #2 I’ve always called my little grandma ‘Grammy’.
PS again—the reporter at that time was likely Bruce Jennings, but it also may have been Linnie Findlay (who did this one.) THE OTHER ONE
OOPS!
Thanx again, my friend.
Merilyn wrote: Did you get my latest—with correct info??
Myrna wrote: Three cheers for you (or 20 or 100)! Yes, I did. I answered this one before I read that one. Sorry! I meant to answer it but I was not feeling well and went to bed instead.
Merilyn wrote: Sorry—hope you’re feeling better today. Some days are just the pits—many more than we’d like.
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
Hello from the land of snow!
We have SNOW and then some. It is also really cold. It is supposed to be about 8-degrees tonight.
I always like it when Thanksgiving is not so cold. I remember some years the holiday has been so warm that we called it "Indian Summer," which as you know, is a period of unusually warm weather in the autumn in the Northern Hemisphere after the first frost but before the snow comes. Those are the Thanksgivings that I like.
I suppose, however, that the skiers will be in the mountains in great numbers on Thanksgiving Day and that they will all be happy.
I was not ready for cold weather. My poor body will be frozen solid by spring if this keeps up.
I always like it when Thanksgiving is not so cold. I remember some years the holiday has been so warm that we called it "Indian Summer," which as you know, is a period of unusually warm weather in the autumn in the Northern Hemisphere after the first frost but before the snow comes. Those are the Thanksgivings that I like.
I suppose, however, that the skiers will be in the mountains in great numbers on Thanksgiving Day and that they will all be happy.
I was not ready for cold weather. My poor body will be frozen solid by spring if this keeps up.
Eva about the round carved table in the Manti Temple
I can not imagine how big that sewing machine must have been. I remember the antique one Aunt Marie had from Uncle Ed's family and it couldn't have worked, not nearly enough wood. It was a treadle and was amazing to watch her sew. She made whole wardrobes for Helen and my Betsy Wetsy dolls when I was 8 or 9.
Have you recuperated from your big week end? It was so good to see all of your family; it has been a long time since I have seen them.
Thanks for inviting all of us. Love you, Eva
Merilyn Jorgensen wrote: Myrna—thanx so much for sending this story about the carved table we have at Manti Temple!! I don’t have it!! Can’t believe I don’t.
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