Drat All These Photos

You'll note that I have named the photo (Master'sDegreeDad7.jpg) wrong. I hope you will all rename it. Dad says that this was his Educational Specialist Degree. The photos showing Dad with Shawn prior to his mission were his Master's Degree and those showing Shawn after his mission were his Ed. Specialist Degree. Sorry about that.

Kirsten wrote: Yes, it was his ed specialist--notice the ring on mel's finger...  That's what I remember about this graduation was that it was right after Mel got engaged.  :)

Now see, you should have all been at my shoulder when I did these. I am doing my albums page by page because everyone wants the OLD photos rather than the new ones. I am tired of making all those CDs. You can compile them and make your own. Hehehe.

Of course, being the blue person that I am, I will gladly make you a CD, IF you want me to. Eric wants the CDs. Any other takers? E-mail me a request.

As an aside, why can Melanie only receive one photo at a time on her email? If I send two, the message comes back as undeliverable. The same is true of Jim and Karma.

Todd wrote: Answer to your last question... I answered already and here it goes again. Your emails are pushing people over their quotas. They can't receive any emails including this response until they download the photos to a local copy on their PC. I believe, if you want to know proactively who would rather have a CD, look at your bounce-back notices and those that say they are over-quota are all good candidates for CDs. Thanks for scanning in the photos. It will likely take a number of weeks and months to do this knowing the volume of photos you have. Sounds like a good process of checks and balances could be set up so that you don't send duplicates and yet are able to disperse the photos. You might think about uploading them to a site where you can control who is seeing the photos. There are any number of sharing spaces our there from DropBox to Picassa. You would need to check them according to security. 

DropBox is a popular one. Once you fill up the free space, you could give everyone a few days to copy down the photos they want and then you can clobber the space with new ones. Google, BING or Yahoo for "free online storage". There are a lot of options out there. Of course, you already know about this quota stuff and online storage. I know I am pointing out the obvious. 

Myrna wrote: AnnMarie doesn't think there is a safe site. Yours and Jim and Karma's are the only ones I have received back, so far. 

Todd wrote: There are safe sites. 

Kirsten wrote: I agree.  Maybe just don't post the ones with AnnMarie's family online to respect her wishes. Kirsten

Myrna wrote: Talk to AnnMarie about it. She deals with people who take little kid's photos off of facebook and make them into porn.

Kirsten wrote: They can only get them off if your settings are open and/or you befriend sickos.

Myrna wrote: Not true. If your friend's friends befriend sickos (and you don't always know who is one) they can get them. By the way, just so you know, I have four convicted child sex offenders on the two blocks surrounding my house. They all started out with family members and moved on to the world in general.

Kirsten wrote: Actually, I have my facebook set to only friends.  Not even friends of friends can see what's on my page.  You can also adjust your settings to say that only a select list (besides your friends) can see your posts, page, etc.  The number one problem of people who get hacked or have their pictures abused is that they don't know how to protect it.  But, we're not talking about having you store on facebook.  You can use Walmart, you can use Sam's club, you can use PicasaWeb.  All are protected (if you make sure you select the right settings each time you upload).

Just my two cents. Kirsten

Todd: You can prevent friends friends in most cases. If you can't -- just don't use that location. Where there is a will, there is a way. 

Why are you resending all these?

Myrna wrote: The others are too small a dpi. These are not. Discard the earlier ones because they are pretty much useless.

Todd wrote: Yup. Your e-mails are too large.

Yes... larger and chewing up even more of my e-mail space. I love seeing these and am very thankful that you are scanning them in. The flip side to that is that you have successfully brought mine and Amy's e-mail to a grinding halt. I don't know about everyone else, but I have a server quota and that quota doesn't decrease at 4am, because we aren't awake with our computer on at 4am when you are sending them at 2am. Better to send on a CD, in my opinion. 

Myrna wrote: OK. For you, it is a CD. Thanks for letting me know. Any others out there? I am not going to do CDs for people who have told me that they just discard them. That is a waste of my time. Yes, I do still value my time.

I will make a CD for you. You can do as you wish.

Kirsten said that, if a photo is ever to be used for anything that requires it to be enlarged, it needs to have a larger dpi. She suggested 1200 dpi. That is what we (Donette Smith and I) also had to use (at the media department's request) to submit photos to the BYU for Grandpa Ray's service with the national guard in the conflict with Mexico. I have dumbed these down to between 600 and 750 dpi. They cannot be used for movies but will be OK on home DVDs. (I think that no one but family will care about that.) Some email service providers can accommodate the 1200 dpi, like BYU and the U of U, for example, but most cannot. I am doing my best to preserve records for the future. I hope it works because I will not live forever. As ill as I was last year, I thought that I would soon join Garth and Richard but, thanks to the tender mercies of my Heavenly Father, I think Dr. Thorpe has found a way to make my life more pleasant. If I eat right and take my $75 per month meds, I should be around for a few more years. Therefore, I am trying to get done what I think I should do. I know it comes as a surprise to all of you  but Dad and I are getting older. We still have some kick, mostly Dad (except for his one knee), but the list of things that I can no longer do is growing. Gone are the days of French fries and foot races (and rootbeer).

Kirsten wrote: f you want to send them to me as large as you can (I'm not sure mine can do 1200 dpi), I can compile CD's for those who want them...  My email won't get overloaded (or hasn't yet) and iPhoto is a wonder to work with...  Happy to help any way.  You could do google or picassa (I think that's what google uses, right?) like Todd suggested and just turn on the privacy settings. Kirsten

Myrna wrote: You do realize that it takes quite a bit of time to burn CDs for 9 people (including one for myself). I have been doing it for years and have learned that few of you really want them at any rate. Maybe one or two photos every few months but that is all. The only way to send a 1200 dpi, other than to the Y, is to burn it to a CD.

nice looking young men‏

Dear Friends,

    Thank you for sending three good looking young men to give Russ a Priesthood blessing.  Jim annointed, Shawn sealed the annointing and gave the blessing and all three laid their hands upon Russ's head.

    It was a very special moment.  Thank you for sharing your family with us.

    Russ made it until Tuesday morning when Dr. Scott Petersen extracted his wisdom tooth.  All went well.

    Thank you again.

    Russ and Colleen Bender


Myrna wrote: You are welcome! We would do all we could to help any time. LHT and Julie were cooking the steaks for dinner and had a faint air of smoke about them. He would have showered and come if he had been alone but three young men were here!!!!! 

I lost my wisdom teeth when I was a teen. No wonder Russ has always been smarter than I am--he still had wisdom teeth. 

64 Women Spend a Year Making Needlepoint

From Grammy's Gleanings: 64 Women Spend a Year Making Needlepoint

Sixty-four women of the Manti and Ephraim Stakes of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints made a special tour of the Manti LDS Temple the day before its open house for the public began.

The women toured the building in reverential awe--until they arrived in one special sealing room just off the entrance to the Celestial Room. There, the quiet tour participants did a strange thing. One by one, they turned the chairs over. Reverent hands fingered needlepoint diamonds of sea-green. Ninety-five pieces of exquisite needlepoint were examined in minute detail. Names on the back of the chairs were sought and noted. Then, once again, an almost-awed silence settled in for a moment.

The 64 women had spent a creating the 95-pieces of needlepoint covering the chairs and altar in the sealing room. Sixty-four pairs of hands had meticulously stitched the special design prepared by Florence Jacobsen, interior decorator for the Manti Temple.

Mrs. Jacobsen said this particular needlepoint project was unique within the church. She thanked the women who had turned her design into upholstered works of art wrought in fine Persian yarn.

Helen Dyreng, Stake Relief Society President, echoed Mrs. Jacobsen's praise. "A great deal of love, care and pride was sewn into each article by wonderfully dedicated women," she said.

Mrs. Marjorie Tibbs, Stake Homemaking Counselor, was chairman for the project. Mrs. Lily Jane Miller was project co-chairman and a supervisor. Mrs. June Cos, Manti, and Mrs. Colleen Nielson, Mrs. Bonnie Olson, and Mrs. Barbara Bailey, all of Ephraim, were project supervisors.

"As we turned the chairs over, looking for our names," said one of the needlepointers, "I thought, 'I wish my Grandma could be here to see this.' Then I realized, she probably was."

"Concern, sacrifice and a high quality of artistic handwork are the earmarks of this project," Mrs. Dyreng assured the women.

[Editor's note: The article above was printed in a newspaper but was taken from a photocopy. I was unable to determine which newspaper carried the original article nor who was author of the piece.] Posted By Myrna Rae Trauntvein to Grammy's Gleanings at 10/19/2003 11:01:00 AM

Myrna wrote: Merilyn Jorgensen, Do you have a copy of this and do you know where it was published?

Merilyn wrote: No—I don’t think I have this either!!  But I recognize my comment about my grandma J.  I’m sure it was in the Manti Messenger, but have no clue who wrote it.

Merilyn wrote: PS  thinking back, I’m recalling that this was in the Des. News—maybe Church section.  They had quite a few things in when the temple was re-dedicated.

Myrna wrote: I looked there. Thanks for thinking with me.

Merilyn wrote: Myrna,  I found the original J  I’ve been going thru my memorabilia, and found the article in question.  There was a special supplement to the Manti Messenger, July 1985.  There was no by-line, but there was a note elsewhere in the paper, from the editor, thanking staff for all their work during the open-house and dedication.  He noted all the hours by Pat Mellor in researching details, etc., so I’m pretty sure she wrote this one. 

I haven’t even cut out all the articles I’ve saved—let alone put them in an album.  You’ve inspired me—I’m going to get to work on my ‘temple’ albumJ  As a side note,  I should tell you my story of doing the needlepoint, and what my grandma had to do with it.  I need to write it up for my album/posterity.

Please keep sending me these ‘goodies’.    Merilyn

PS  my name IS on a chair:)

PS #2   I’ve always called my little grandma ‘Grammy’.

PS again—the reporter at that time was likely Bruce Jennings, but it also may have been Linnie Findlay (who did this one.) THE OTHER ONE

OOPS!

Thanx again, my friend.



Merilyn wrote: Did you get my latest—with correct info??

Myrna wrote: Three cheers for you (or 20 or 100)! Yes, I did. I answered this one before I read that one. Sorry! I meant to answer it but I was not feeling well and went to bed instead. 


Merilyn wrote: Sorry—hope you’re feeling better today.  Some days are just the pits—many more than we’d like.

Hello from the land of snow!

We have SNOW and then some. It is also really cold. It is supposed to be about 8-degrees tonight.

I always like it when Thanksgiving is not so cold. I remember some years the holiday has been so warm that we called it "Indian Summer," which as you know, is a period of unusually warm weather in the autumn in the Northern Hemisphere after the first frost but before the snow comes. Those are the Thanksgivings that I like.

I suppose, however, that the skiers will be in the mountains in great numbers on Thanksgiving Day and that they will all be happy.

I was not ready for cold weather. My poor body will be frozen solid by spring if this keeps up.

Eva about the round carved table in the Manti Temple

I can not  imagine how big that sewing machine must have been.  I remember the antique one Aunt Marie had from Uncle Ed's family and it  couldn't have worked, not nearly enough wood. It was a treadle  and was amazing to watch her sew. She made  whole wardrobes for Helen and my Betsy Wetsy dolls when I was 8 or 9.

Have you recuperated from your big week end?  It was so good to see all of your family; it has been a long time since I have seen them.  

Thanks for inviting all of us.  Love you, Eva

Merilyn Jorgensen wrote: Myrna—thanx so much for sending this story about the carved table we have at Manti Temple!!  I don’t have it!! Can’t believe I don’t.

A Short History of the Round Carved Table in the Manti Temple‏

It was made by Jens J. Hansen, who was born in Manti, June 19, 1863. He was a son of Jens Hansen and Sophia Charlotte Dorthea Pederson. His parents were converts to the (LDS) Church from Denmark. They were among the first settlers in Manti.

He (Jens J. Hansen) lived three block west of Simmons furniture store on the north side of the street, southwest corner. In the east part of the lot, was a small adobe house with a large fireplace. This one room adobe cottage, or home, at one time was the workshop where this table was built.

In those days, tools were not plentiful. He had a foot power saw which had many blades. This he used at all times. He operated the saw with a pedal with a big wheel on the side and, I believe, my father made that. He bought the saws; they were about this long (indicating from 12-14 inches). He had different kinds of saws and they were so they would fit in the same and then he would work that pedal and it had a wheel on the side that worked with the pedal. I've watched him so many times.

He drew his own patterns for birds and other objects on the top of the table. The dark wood he used was taken from an old Howe sewing machine, brought from Denmark to Manti by his parents.

In those days, it was impossible to buy glue so he made his own glue by boiling the feet of animals in a large brass kettle in the fireplace, letting it cook and straining it through a cloth. It could be that he learned this method of making glue when he worked on the Temple, as he worked there from the time the Temple was started until it was completed. He was the one who assisted in building the spiral staircase.

This history is authentic as it was written by his eldest daughter who lives in Ephraim, Utah, and who watched as her father made may parts of the table.

This history was given to me by Mrs. Maggie Hansen Sorensen, who signed the original copy on 2 March 1977. It was retyped to make corrections but the corrected copy was not signed.

Linnie T.M. Findlay 

The Family Tours Williamsburg in 1980

Left to Right on the Back Row: Shawn, Kirsten, Julie, AnnMarie, Todd
Front Row: David, Melanie, Myrna and Leonard Trauntvein

Flower Water Level

Melanie wrote: 
Mom, 

Todd posted a picture of the flowers that I put together for your big vase. The water level is too low. Some of the side stems are out of water. Would you put some more water in the vase? 

Also, if you completely empty the water every two days and refill it, the flowers should last for over a week. 

Thanks.
Melanie

Myrna wrote: I already noticed that!!!! I took care of it but I did not know to empty the water every few days.

Melanie wrote: Okay. Thanks. The addition gets a little warmer than the rest of the house, so the water will start to grow bacteria, the bacteria will lead to mold growth, which will make the flowers die more quickly. Little things you learn when dealing with flowers. 

Thank you for allowing us to treat you like you should have been treated all you life. It was interesting to me on Sunday morning when Dad walked me out to my car, he told me how much he loved you and when he was talking about the day he married you, he choked up and got tears in his eyes. He really does love you Mom. Mel

Myrna wrote: I moved them into the living room--the flowers--and I know Dad loves me and I love him. I am not surprised that we lasted 50 years together. I am just surprised that we both have lived this long. We are just like two old rocks rolling downhill. We strike sparks now and again--some good ones and some not so good ones--but neither of us would like rolling along with anyone else. Well, maybe Dad would if I died. I don't know that he would be good solo. He likes to talk too much. In fact, I was trying to work this morning and I finally had to tell him to leave the room, PLEASE!!!!!

I planned on getting up to say goodbye but I was too tired and slept too long. Sorry about that. There were too many little kids with problems in our trailer. I think I wandered around half the night. I cleaned up vomit until I was ready to join in myself. Oh, well. I suppose I may degenerate to that level again before I leave this world. I hope people are as patient with me as I try to be with little people.

Myrna wrote: Thanks for the beautiful flowers. The ones at the church have certainly made the rounds. They went from there to a stake Primary meeting and then on to widows and old folk's homes. They brightened more than our celebration. Thank you!!!!! I love you and am so thankful for your many talents.

Melanie wrote: I like the fact that many people enjoyed the flowers. What a great idea to take them to the Rest Home. 

I heard little Ryan every time he threw up. I am not a heavy sleeper, so I heard the whole thing. I felt so sorry for him, you, Dad and Kirsten. She didn't get any sleep, and got vomited on as well. Some things about having little children I do not miss. :)

I love you. Mel


Myrna wrote: Ryan was sleeping next to Jacob. Luckily for Jacob, he had pulled all the covers over his head because Ryan threw up on top of him. I woke to the retching sound. I took him out on the step, crying, and gathered the bedclothes. I had Dad pick up Jacob (who stayed asleep) and take him in with him. Then I brought Ryan in the house. He threw up twice more before we got to the front door. I went back out and got the bedding and brought it into the washer, including the pillow. I went back out to the trailer and found out that the floor was also covered and it had soaked through at the bottom when I was moving Ryan off the bed so I had to wipe up the mat and the carpet and the floor. I then found another pillow that had got the over-splash so I ran that back inside. I stayed for a bit because I was worried that the pillows would cause the washer to go out of balance in the spin. However, I was covered from bringing in Ryan so I had to clean up myself. I had to wash off the walk and the front steps. I finally laid down and Jacob woke up and went into the bathroom and used the toilet in the trailer (where there was no water) before I realized what was happening. So I had to clean that up and him. Then Donovin started to moan in his sleep. He didn't ever throw up and the next morning he said he was fine. Emma had eaten way too much cake and had bad gas! Only Erin and Whitney seemed unaffected by all of the goings on. However, Caydin had gotten worse during the night so David and family just hurried and left. Todd said he had not heard a thing. Wow! 

Myrna wrote: I just re-read. What do you mean, some things you do not miss about having little kids? It doesn't take a child. I remember you cleaning up after a sick husband, dog, and a deer mess. I don't think any of that is fun either. (Especially the deer!!!!!!) :(

Brandon Flowers - A Fire Still Burning

Brandon Flowers, Mormon lead singer of The Killers, wants to be a positive force in the world. His wife, kids, and parents set a good example for him. Brandon Flowers, lead singer of The Killers, knows that it's not common for a rock star to have a wife and kids. But his parents' example led Brandon to choose early on that pursuing music wouldn't be about sex and money.More at http://www.mormon.org/brandon


How many of you remember Brandon? He grew up here in Nephi. He has a sister who still lives here. I think he is David's age.

Health Challenge‏ From Kirsten

Kirsten wrote: Here's a new "health challenge"... a little revised, only 8 weeks, no free days (other than holidays), and extra credit points for things like scripture study, flossing teeth, etc.

Let me know if you're interested.  It starts this sunday.

Kirsten


Hi friends,

I am attaching the latest health challenge rules and tracking sheet.  Let me know if you are interested.  We will be starting this Sunday, October 23rd, and it will run for 8 weeks.  (Note:  there is a new holiday rule, so you can enjoy Thanksgiving without losing points.)  There is also a weight loss option for those of you who are interested in that.   The winner of the last round won $500!  The more that join, the more money is in the pot to win.


FYI--I just looked over the tracking sheet.  One of the pages is to show how you could earn maximum points per day.  However, it gives points for a shake AND healthy meal.  You get a point for one or the other, not both.  I am clarifying this with my brother, Brian, who is running the health challenge from MO.  If he gets enough to sign up there, we can have a friendly competition between the west and midwest.

Hope you are all doing well!!

Sheri Ford

Myrna wrote: Was there supposed to be something to download? I didn't see anything that contained any rules.

Kirsten wrote: Sorry.  Thought the attachments would forward...